USB Multi Charger for all your devices?
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 02:45
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Mark B68
Looking for a few good CIG Lighter or other usb/power multiport chargers for all the flamin Tablets, Batteries, Laptops, cameras that ya carry and use these days.
Links and Price responses get bonus points :-)
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Reply By: Peter J4 - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 06:35
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 06:35
I have found it's best to avoid anything that uses a cigarette lighter plug.
If I buy anything that is only available with a cigarette plug then I change it to a merit plug if possible.
Cigarette plugs were only designed for a short term use with an actual cigarette lighter not for long term constant use. They always eventually play up and require a wiggle to maintain contact.
If trying to draw a relatively high constant current they get hot and melt.
Then there is usually very light wire connecting them in most modern cars which itself isn't enough to run most otems without voltage loss.
I use a dual USB socket mounted and wired with good quality cable on it's own fused circuit, in fact I have three in the passenger compartment and six in the camper which allows us to charge most things.
Larger items like laprops are best charged off 240v from the mains or an inverter.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 09:26
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 09:26
What Peter Says is correct. Cigarette sockets rely on the plug contact to be held in place by a spring and all sorts of problems with that occurr down the track. With the Merit connector, the plug contact slides into a proper socket. This makes a much better connection and tends to be self-cleaning by the action of the male contact sliding into the socket.
A little known fact is that 5V power supplied by the original USB connectors is only specified for use for low powered devices. Phones that can charge quickly and tablets are powered by voltages of up to 48V. This can not be supplied directly from a 12V cigarette socket. It requires some sort of inverter in the line. SCUBADOO has given a link to devices that do that, but I would not rely on these for long time use, as they plug into Cigarette lighter sockets. If you look at this link
Power you will get a bit of a grasp on the subject of USB power.
If you can not find devices that can be connected directly to your battery through reliable connectors, then make up your own panels or boxes and cable them directly to the battery (and don't forget the fuse near the battery to protect the devices wiring.)
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 14:51
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 14:51
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To add to Peter’s wisdoms…. Some accessories such as navigation aids often come with a cigar plug and integral power module which prevents changing from the cigar connection. So if you must use them then the plug tightness can often be improved by judicious bending of the side contacts out a little or by adding a turn or two of insulation tape to increase the plug diameter as has been suggested earlier.
The cigar plug is the descendant of the long gone auto cigarette lighters but we unfortunately seem to be stuck with it as it’s cheap and easy.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 02:26
Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 02:26
If you buy decent after market lighter sockets then you're less likely to have issues I also used twin core 6mm wire on them. I ran a fridge off a lighter socket for quite few yrs in 3 different vehicles with sockets I had mounted in the rear. Even done a 3 month trip from
Perth to Mackay 19yrs ago with the fridge in a lighter socket in a 4wd wagon the whole time with some off road trips included. It also helps if the fridge comes with a decent plug like Evakool did. I have been using a gps for maybe 15yrs or more never had the plug come loose.
Same with merit sockets you get good and not so good one's.
I haven't had any problems with Narva products including their usb's.
In the cabin of my current BT50 I have permanent power to aftermarket sockets 2 are lighter, 1 x dual usb and an Anderson plug.
Also my last 3 starter batteries I have used dual purpose 105 ah Supercharge All-rounder so no problem charging items while the car is off or running a fridge for 1 or 2 nights.
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Reply By: Mark B68 - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 07:14
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 07:14
Just as an add on to power usage in front of car (DMAX).
Looking at powering/charging Samsung Tab A9+ and a couple of QIC chargers for phone. I don't think drive a 12V charge would work unless just the one device.
We have Cig chargers in Norweld Canopy that would power the Starlink Mini.
The charge for a Tab would probably require a 100w constant?
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Reply By: SCUBADOO - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 08:29
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 08:29
I run a few tablets in our motorhome for various uses including a Samsung Galaxy A9+.
It only charges at a maximum of 15W. Almost any charger here including a few $5 units work perfectly.
I have a couple of cigarette lighter USB chargers that have been in fulltime travel use for the last 4 or 5 years.
They both originally tended to self eject from the sockets over time but a strip of black insulation tape around the barrels for a snug fit and they have never budged since.
Am I allowed to link to Aliexpress here?
These chargers can run and charge our multitude of devices here including Android TV boxes, tablets, phones, power banks, Eneloop and lithium battery chargers and even the 19V 5A 14" Acer notebook demands via the PD USB-C outlets.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001351292663.htmlhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002878566924.html
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 08:35
Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 08:35
Same here mate. I have the original cig skt in the Pajero and run my Tablet and phones with no problems and all charge up.
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Reply By: Mark B68 - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:13
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:13
Wondering if it just as easy to turn on the 2000w inverter in canopy and run a 240V ext cord and powerboard to cab so can charge of the standard 240v power when driving?
DMAX with Norwerld Canopy and RTT Rig.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 16:36
Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 16:36
Well we actually do this - but only for charging my DSLR camera battery in its 240v charger occasionally (power board under passenger
seat) as I lost my second battery and murphy always catches me out. Just remember to turn off your inverter!!
Michelle
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Reply By: Garry L - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:29
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:29
Something like this any good ?
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwi_yZXMgbqKAxV6qWYCHTwZEcYYABAMGgJzbQ&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAiA65m7BhAwEiwAAgu4JH3NX0NA0rFhNfpzC7Jwdb9ebNrnBh3DmrdljABm8LTj0odjM3JFURoCIV0QAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_0_If9aGK2p4dYy-AlNBQa1rcHDJg&ctype=5&q=&nis=4&ved=2ahUKEwiWppHMgbqKAxXNUGwGHVSpPLQQ9aACKAB6BAgEEFE&adurl=
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Follow Up By: Peter J4 - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:50
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:50
Garry L in a word NO as it relies on the cigarette plug and as I said most cigarette plugs supplied on vehicles are not designed for anything more than 20 seconds use to heat a cigarette lighter.
The positive pin on a cigarette lighter plug rarely makes any more than a few square mm of contact and so are prone to heating if higher currents are required for any length of time.
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Follow Up By: Garry L - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:56
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:56
Peter
I don't have or use one but numerous friends do with similar products without issue.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 11:54
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 11:54
They get away with it for a while but it is not a long term solution.
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 14:25
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 14:25
Agree with the others, a lot of cig outlets in cars these days are only rated for 10A or less, if you keep the draw below that you might be ok but you would be better off installing wired in chargers like these:
fast chargeCharger
For things like laptops then use a marine cig locking outlet or a merit type though I have still had issues with those and larger laptop chargers. You might find a small wired in inverter is the better option and use the AC power pack.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 11:12
Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 11:12
Garry L - quote "Peter - I don't have or use one but numerous friends do with similar products without issue."
I see a possible answer to why your friends are having no issue with the physical connections of their devices. If you run your cursor over the stem of the connector, you will see the info in the attached .JPG file. It states on there the capabilities of the USB ports. Whilst the advert claims there is QC3.0 capability, that capability is very limited. You will note its maximum output is 12V @ 1.8A. It is quite common for these cigarette connection devices to not deliver their advertised capability. If they can not deliver what they promise, they can not stress the electrical connection.
In addition, that 12V, 1.8A output is insufficient for the OP's requirement. It will take him all day to charge his high power devices. If he wishes to charge them in a timely manner, he requires a quality device, hardwired in his vehicle.
Yes I am also guilty of using cigarette lighter devices but when I do i have to put up with them dropping out of the socket over rough roads and being dislodged when someone is rearranging things. I also only use them for flee-power devices.
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Follow Up By: Garry L - Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 13:02
Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 13:02
Peter
I wasn't looking for an argument or a lecture - I just gave the OP an option that might suit his situation.
I have a factory usb port in both my 4wd's and they are just used for my phone and on the odd occasion a tablet. One lot of friends who travel Australia full time have been using a 4 port charger similar to the link one for 6 years and they said it's never missed a beat, fallen out, set their car on fire or exploded !
I don't use cigarette sockets for any 12 volt application as I know there downfalls.
Have a good Christmas and stay safe !
Cheers
Gazz
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:59
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 10:59
Instead of standard USB chargers we use PD chargers - look it up.
What is a PD charger
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Follow Up By: Tony W - Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 08:05
Monday, Dec 23, 2024 at 08:05
That's exactly the right solution. USB C PD.
It can power up to 100W from cig adapters, or OE style switch outlets and can power USB mini, micro, apple, wireless, laptops and even DC outputs to 28V ( if you get the right one)
All phones and new devices have to be USB C for the EU so it has a massive eco system. Even apple was forced to use it
Cheap, powerful, wide support, and easy.
It's the best choice by far these days. I'm surprised more people didn't suggest it.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 11:38
Sunday, Dec 22, 2024 at 11:38
Nothing wrong with a ciggy charger as long as it is a tight fit.
I had a dual USB charger in my old D-Max and for charging my phone, it work fine for the 5 years I had it plug in.
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