Gary Junction Road

Submitted: Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 10:52
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Morning All.
Planning to head off in August from Marble Bar along Rippon Hills Road and the GaryJunction Road to Alice.
Just wondering if water is available to top up the caravan tanks from the communities along the way.
Also is there any must sees along the way that are easily missed.
Thanks Craig
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Reply By: lkyphl - Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:57

Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:57
I can't help with your question about water, but a mate, experienced in outback travel, drove it last week at no more than 40km/h, the corrugations were that severe. It cracked three welds in his Trakmaster van,

Phil
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Follow Up By: Craig M1 - Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 13:05

Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 13:05
Mmmmm , thanks for the update. May need to consider an alternative.
Cheers Craig
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Follow Up By: John Baas - Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 00:45

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 00:45
We drove it 5 days ago. Corrugations between Papunya and Kunawarritji were certainly sub-par but we've experienced far worse. Between Kunawarritji and Punmu they were bad tho - 40 to 50 kph for many sections. Condits improved west of Punmu. Cheers. JB.
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Follow Up By: Craig M1 - Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:12

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:12
Hi John
What were you towing.
I have a 3.5 t off road caravan towing with a Landcruiser 200.
I would usually run the caravan at 23 to 25psi and the cruiser at 25 to 28psi in heavy corrugations .
Were you around those pressures.
Cheers Craig
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Follow Up By: John Baas - Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 11:26

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 11:26
Hi Craig. We were in a Series 200; not towing. Had tyres at about 25psi at cold - were about 28 psi warm. Cheers.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 14:35

Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 14:35
Craig the permit covers 3 days of travel - do you really need to top up water for such a short period of trip? If so, Kunawaritji and Papunya are the most tourist friendly. You may not feel as comfortable at the Kintore or Kiwirrikurra to go seeking water unless you had an emergency. They both have fuel but the bowsers are in cages with 24/7 card access. Take a look at the Place listings to see if we list water at these communities and if the photos show a tap at the bowsers. We found the caged ones quite unreliable - Papunya didn't work the day we were there for example. In these regions, always plan to be self reliant and if you happen to pick up extra supplies then consider that an added bonus. I've link the Trek Note to this post FYI and within you'll find all the supply details for each community. Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Craig M1 - Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 15:50

Monday, Jul 29, 2024 at 15:50
Hi Michelle
Thanks for all that great information.
Cheers Craig
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:18

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:18
Craig, I meant to edit my post yesterday and got distracted, but wanted to add that there are tons of bores out along that road, with the best at the best campsite (Jupiter Well). Use the bore water for washing if you like to reduce your reliance on carrying extra. However, since our last visit in 2022, most of these bores (except Jupiter) are now requested as places they don't wish you to visit unless in emergency. There have always been tons of rustic signs leading off the main track to the bore sites and over time some have been neglected, others upgraded. Len used these bores for building the track but these days the whole route passes through community lands and access permits are designed to keep travellers strictly on the transit route, not poke around exploring, but the fact of the matter is there is tons of artesian water right there beneath your feet so you won't perish! I hope you enjoy it - there's some beautiful country there.
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Reply By: John Baas - Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 00:46

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 at 00:46
Princess Parrot is currently being seen at Jupiter Well. Cheers. JB.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 09:49

Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 09:49
We shopped for fuel and groceries at Kiwirrkurra ($2.70/L) on 20-7-24. Did not check on water.
We filled at Jupiter Bore. Good water.
We stopped again at Kunawarritji for fuel and groceries ($3.10/L) on 23-7-24. There was water available at the fuel bowsers, but we did not use it.
Both were very welcoming. We thought the grocery and fruit and veg prices were very good at both considering that they all come from Alice Springs.Kunawarritji had recently over catered for a large gathering and had frozen meat at half price.

We last came along here in 2008. We expected the road to have deteriorated significantly due to extra traffic since then but we were pleasantly surprised.

Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Craig M1 - Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 15:05

Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 15:05
Thanks Peter, that’s useful information.
I’ve done plenty of corrugated gravel roads.
The worst being Kalumbaru. How would you rank the Gary.

Cheers Craig
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 15:56

Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 15:56
For a long, wide road often driven at high speeds by locals, we recon the Gary Junction Road is better than you might otherwise expect.
It is a long road, there are some lousy bits and there are very good bits. Average is pretty good, in our view.
Then again, any talk about road conditions is a waste of time. What you recon is good, others might think is rotten. And next week it will all be different anyhow. Go and have a look and make up your own mind.

In regard to camping along the way, the Haast Bluff (NT section) permit covers about 320km of road.
The permit says:
"5. Permit holders are to stay on the main access road at all times.
6. It is expected that the road will be travelled in one day and that camping will not be required.
7. In an emergency camping is permitted within thirty metres of the roadside.
8. No access under any circumstances is permitted to rocky outcrops and/or hills near to or visible from the road."
Get tired? Camp!

Our Kiwirrkurra (WA) permit was valid for 4 days (15-18th July) and covers about 360km of road. Jupiter Well is about 85km from the western end of the permit zone.
In part it says:
"9. Remain on established roads and use approved camping areas/accommodation unless specific permission to do otherwise has been obtained."

There are abundant well used camping spots along the road in both sections.

The Gary Junction Road is a drive we enjoy.
In 2008 we called into every community along the way. ALL were friendly and welcoming with the exception of Kintore where there was "sorry business" in progress.
Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Craig M1 - Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 16:42

Wednesday, Jul 31, 2024 at 16:42
Thanks Peter.
Info really appreciated.
Cheers Craig
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