OBD2 Bluetooth Scan Tool (dongle) For Android or iPhone

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:29
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Hi All
Anyone using an OBD2 Bluetooth Scan Tool (dongle) For Android, and do you leave it connected all the time?
I have an expensive tuner/reader that I don't want to carry in the vehicle and have read the info from Ron N (very helpful) on an earlier topic re Kogan one. The phone apps put a new dimension for info if you want it such as when an ECM light comes up.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:03

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:03
I tried using one back in 2015 to read the ATF temperature. It ended up causing the ECU to bring up warning lights indicating the the ATF temperature was high. I then fitted a Scangauge II and have never seen the lights again.

The SC II might be expensive but it works very will. I use it to display -
1. Speed which is 100% correct matching the GPS.
2. Voltage
3. Coolant temperature
4. ATF temperature.

As mentioned, some of the Bluetooth dongles can play up with the ECU.

If it works and does not cause any problems, there is no reason why it can not be plugged in all the time, my SC II has never been removed since 2015.
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Follow Up By: 116hynes - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:08

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:08
I had a similar issue on a 2011 Toyota 79 series cruiser where the glow plugs wouldn't work with OBD dongle connected. I have a other people with this on LCOOL
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:23

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:23
Yes, I have heard of a few (not many) that have reported problems, I was using a ELM327 dongle.

I believe that the WIFI ones are more reliable - try this one from Jaycar OBD2 Wi-Fi Engine Code Reader for a little more money $35.97 but then you have a more reliable product.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:09

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:09
There are a number of long threads on the Pajero forum regarding OBDII dongles, codes and issues. Basically cheap eBay readers give issues. The Jaycar dongle doesn't seem to give trouble. The WiFi device has been discontinued.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 17:16

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 17:16
From what I understand, ELM 27 GENUINE chip devices are ok. Most called Elm27 are copies of chips from, you know where the Virus started, it appears most sold are not the genuine ELM 27 chip being used although claimed to be, and those can cause spurious signals and strange happenings.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 21:30

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 21:30
There is a very good article on OBD2 in the September edition of the electronics magazine "Silicon Chip." It also stresses the desirability of getting a trader with a genuine ELM327 chip and not a knockoff copy of that chip.

As a bonus, if you get hold of the mag, it has a detailed article on 5G Mobile Communications.


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Follow Up By: Sulphur1 - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 23:01

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 23:01
Thanks for the tip Peter. I usually look what articles SC has but our local paper shop is out of action due to the pizza shop next door being fire bombed!
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Reply By: Keir & Marg - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:15

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:15
I had a dongle for my Android on the Pajero and found that the battery would go flat after a week of the car in the garage. Threw it away and got an EDS tool from the 4WD supacentre. Works fine and turns itself off when the engine isn't running.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:25

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:25
EDS will not read the ATF temperature, well at least on the D-Max.
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Follow Up By: Keir & Marg - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:31

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:31
Correct Kazza055, it doesn't read the ATF temperature, but I have a MM4x4 lock-up kit on the AT, so hopefully high ATF temperatures should not be a problem. Even before the lock-up kit, ATF changes didn't show any burning of the ATF, suggesting that the OEM cooler is doing its job, even when towing.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 17:10

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 17:10
Kier&Marg
The ATF won't show any burning unless it is far far far in excess of normal temp. Most discolouration by oxidation and some friction disc material particles in the fluid. Unless the clutches are slipping and generating localized heat far in excess of normal temps and turning the steel plates blue there won't be fluid discolouration or burning to any extent at all. If clutches are slipping the auto doesn't last long. All the autos I have rebuilt had fairly clean fluid apart from some which had the wrong brown fluid in there. Today, often the modern fluids used are not red as people expect.

Be careful with the lockup as any torque more than normal being fed through that little weenie clutch in the TC will destroy it. Often not mentioned by promoters of those kits. It is designed to UNLOCK when asked to transmit any significant torque. The Lockup kit take away that safety aspect.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 19:55

Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 19:55
You don't get the ATF temp as one of the default ECU outputs you have to create a custom PID to retrieve it. See the following thread custom Pajero ATF PID. This is for the Aisin transmission. There is a different code for the Jatco. The OBDII reader referenced with the power down feature is the OBDLink MX+. Avaiable from Amazon Australia ~$150. I'll be sticking with the Jaycar for the moment.
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Reply By: Member - Warren H - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:23

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:23
I've the dongle sold by Jaycar, matched with Torque Pro. No issues leaving it connected in the Pajero. Have read that some of the cheaper eBay dongles drain battery power. Some apparently auto power down, the Jaycar 'Response PP2145' manual specifies the standby current as <40 mA. After greater than a year of use it did throw an ECU comms error code (cleared using Torque Pro), this is apparently a known possible issue and is solved by setting the comms protocol rather than having the reader autodetect. Torque Pro also allows for custom PIDs to be created. Lots of config and custom PID codes on the Pajero forum, presumably other vehicle specific forums as well.
PS: I had the vehicle sitting in the drive way for 19 days over summer with no issues, the battery was a 6 month old N70 Yuasa though.
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Reply By: Member - Racey - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 14:06

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 14:06
2nd for Scan Guage II
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Reply By: wooly0005 - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:59

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 16:59
Another vote for ScanGauge11, never any issues
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Reply By: Sulphur1 - Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 05:51

Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 05:51
Thanks to all who replied. I appreciate your comments.
Had not thought of it running the battery down when the engine's off.
Can you add an external probe (EGT?) with the SC2 or does it only monitor the OB2 of the vehicle?
In my case a 2011 Chev 2500 diesel.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:10

Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:10
All any of these OBDII devices is monitor the ECU codes so if your ECU monitors the EGT then in theory you should be able to read it. All you need is to know the code to read it.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:58

Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:58
Sulphur1
If your vehicle has an EGT probe in exhaust which is connected to the ECU then possibly able to read it if appropriate entry code is in SC. If there is no EGT probe in exhaust then you would have to fit one so an external EGT gauge can read the exhaust temp. My 2011 Dmax, now fitted with a dump pipe probe does read exhaust temp via a Scintex gauge and it has an alarm feature. If needed, fit a buzzer and set EGT temp limit. Mine set at 450C. Since there is around 200C drop of temp across the turbo impeller as heat energy is used by the turbo action, the temp prior to the turbo can be 650C when the probe 100mm after turbo is reading 450C. Some do fit the EGT probe prior to the turbo, (drilled manifold), that is ok but if the probe fails the bits destroy the turbo.
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Reply By: OBJ - Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:43

Friday, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:43
My Scangauge works fine on a 76 Series Landcruiser (diesel_).
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