The next Landrover Defender should be good...Providing!!??.

Now that would be something different,...no more oil leaks.


Cheers.

No more scenes like this?

I think there is going to be to many models looking the same,

And agree with the 19'' rims caper.

But you never know it might be the best off roader ever built!!….)))


Cheers Axle.

I reckon a 1996 Defender trayback would equate to a 1996 Landcruiser trayback.

Way ahead of todays offerings in terms of durability and user maintenance.
mike

Hi Mountainman, I think you might be refering to the Td5, which where a lot more electrical and had a few issues in the earlier days. than the tdi300 engine.

When theTdi 300 was released there where mechanical issues first up that sort of put a bit of a stigma out there as far as reliability goes.

The timing belt run off was one of the worst issues at the start , and took Landrover way to long to rectify the problem. Rear oil seals,, Tseals under the sump, leather oil seal on the rear diff pinion where just a few things that gave trouble within the first 100,000ks,But as time went on and after market parts became more available you could build them up to be reliable as any. The internal construction of that motor was as good as any, and there was very few that just blew up!, unlike some.

Mine has given me grief at times, but overall has been pretty good.

Depending what you do with them makes a difference as well, they where never

a real hwy cruiser, but where good at towing for the size of the motor and had good load carrying capacity.

Could go on for hrs about Landrover but as the old adage goes you had to luv them and hate them at the same time.

Cheers Axle.

80% loss of resale value on a Defender in 5 years - just does not happen. Other models possibly but resale on a Defender is better than just about any other vehicle.

If you look on carsales some of the last run of Defenders are advertised for $100k
That’s a lot more than they left the dealership for a couple of years ago

Mate had the td5 in the extreme wagon in red colour
Year might have been 2001-2003.
He sold it within a couple years or less
But he did lose alot of money

This is before the defender talk of no more production line

Soo the stopped production obviously helped those who bought later and kept hold of their vehicle.

He could just aim and dtive any hill he ever wanted
It was just the constant breakdown
And never ending repairs that made him sell
For a massive loss
Cheers

Land Rover reliability improved massively when Ford bought them in 2006. They started to shared common parts with a whole range of cars in the Ford universe. I had a 2008 Land Rover for 10 years and over 300k and it never needed any fluids between services, plus it was never towed home. Reputations die hard, Landies are crucified off 20+ year old data. Similarly, Toyota are basking in a reliability reputation from 20 + years ago as well. I read about major problems with Toyotas every day now. All modern high powered cars with intricate electrics and complex emissions controls are going to have issues sooner or later no matter the brand. Drive what you think is nice.

I've had Toyotas all my life but back in 2014, a mate had to drive me home from
Warwick, where I had to leave my bush, battered little Zook with a broken axle. He picked me up in his 97 Discovery Tdi300... I couldn't believe how comfy it was, so it wasn't long before I bought a Disco Tdi300 myself, this turned out to be one of the most comfy and capable 4wd's in standard form that I've owned...
This then lead me to check out an old Defender to see how they would go as a possible old school tourer... Somehow I talked myself into buying one but it sat in my back yard for a couple of years before I made the decision to at least get it registered and sell it. This is where my life changed... a bloke from one of the LR forums took me under his wing and helped me repair it and get it to the point of a reliable tourer and I fell in love with it and ended up keeping it... Took it to the VHC last year with the family (5) and towed our CT and had a ball. It's certainly not a good tow vehicle as it was hard work, but it did it and with good fuel economy (better than the wife's 2010 Prado with it tows the CT).

5 years after buying my 1st LR, I now find myself owning 2 Defenders ('95 Tdi300 110wgn and a '09 Defender Puma 110 wgn which will be taking over the touring duties from the wife's Prado + my old Disco Tdi300. Will be selling the wife's Prado later this year...

The days of old school 4WD's (ie: Solid Front and rear Diffs, etc) is fading quickly with only Jeep, Suzuki and Toyota and I reckon it won't be long Toyota ends the 70's, leaving Jeep & Suzuki...

The new LR Defender will be 100% different from its heritage as there is no real market globally for that type of 4WD that was built for adventure/exploration.

WIll it be any good... who knows, but with tyres greater than 17/18", then that pretty much says it all... imo.
Just means I'll be keeping what I have now for quite some time until I no longer wish to tour offroad in those remote locations....