Black wolf questions

Have you looked at the Oztrail fast frames, not canvas, but plenty of room, lighter and cheaper and a very usable awning, the fast frame tourer is possibly the one to look at. We bought a Coleman Gold instant up not long before the Oztrail fast frame came on the market, very happy with it, but definitely would swap it forthe Oztrail.

The Lite has a lighter material - not sure it is canvas as such or the polyester mix - compared to the "non" Lite versions which are made of top quality material.

Not sayin there is anything wrong with the Lite material but satisfy yourself that it meets your requirements.

After looking around for a tough tent that was easy to put up and pull down, I couldn't go past the Black Wolf Turbo 240 for the type of camping that I intended doing. One big 'plus' when it came to choosing the Turbo over the Turbo Lite was the floor material - a lot heavier and stronger in the Turbo and this is where the weight difference was.

The Turbo is 24 kg packed and the Lite is 19 kg, but I figured that if I went with the Lite to save only 5 kg, I would have to carry a h/d ground sheet and I wouldn't gain anything. In fact, I would lose that bit of packing space that the h/d groundsheet required and it would more than likely weigh more than 5 kg.

My wife and I use Black Wolf Mega Deluxe inflatable mattresses, very comfortable and extremely warm in sub zero temps. We looked at fold-up stretcher type beds and figured that they are okay out in the paddock, but not in the tent - prolonged use would definitely wear holes in the floor.

As for selecting the 240 plus or 300 plus, I guess you have to consider how much time you think you will spend in the tent and how much gear you will need to stow. If you are going to be set up somewhere for any length of time, the extra room is definitely an advantage, but if you are going to be on the move day after day, you need to keep it simple and apart from bedding, practically everything else stays in the vehicle.

Dusty

The 300plus needs a very big flat clean area. That limits your options.

We have had the turbo 300 lite plus for some years now. Great tent, BUT I don't think it will be good for bunks because of the sloping sides. The bunks would have to be in the middle to get the head room. I suggest that a tent with much more vertical walls would be much better.

I agree with the others esp about a 6x3m tent; we have had to compromise on the ground condition a little more than we would have liked.

The 300 plus is much bigger in side, (about an extra 3+ sqm of floor), but I think the sides are less vertical than the 240 since they are both the same height. The extra room really increases the storage and single level bed space

We have a queen bed nearly in the middle of the tent (no pole) and that means head room (for me) is limited. Even walking around the bed means I am touching the wall often. It works well for us, with mobility issues, we have the commode over the portaloo right next to the bed, and we do light cooking in the tent with a camp stove.

BTW I can pitch and pack the tent single handed. The ugliest thing is lifting it into the car. We have built an igloo/tunnel to slide the tent in and out underneath the other luggage. Tents are often first out, last in.

Michael,
I have had lots of tents and now have had a Turbo lite 300 for a few years. great tent. Wouldn't change it. Maybe you should not get the "plus", but buy the sides for the verandah for use when it is raining instead?
Cheapest I found was at Snowys. They were good also.
ian

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We found the Turbo 240 lite ample size for 2 adult & 3 kids, see classifieds

We have the 300 (not plus) but not the lite model. We use it for us and our son and is very spacious. We use camp stretchers inside with 4wd mattresses on top. Now our son doesn't like camping anymore we looked at the 240, but found it a bit tight inside. The 300 is good if inclement weather comes in as you can fit your table and chairs in it. From memory the tent size packed up is about 1500mm long, which means it (just) fits into the back of our Dmax dual cab.
HIghly recommend the Black Wolf range of tents

Hi we have a 300 plus and it is great, spares are easy and relatively in expensive as well. The plus gives you that bit of extra when staying put for more than a few nights additional weight is minimal but overall they are a heavy tent to lug around.

The advantage of the 300 is that if you are just stopping for the night you do not need to deploy the additional space but it takes little time to do so.
if you were staying for shorter periods I would say get the 240 and front canopy ends.

My wife and I deploy a queen size bed, side tables and another bit of hanging space and still have plenty of room. inside. Using bunk beds you would easily get by with a 240 though.