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Submitted: Sunday, Feb 05, 2017 at 19:09
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rob h18
Hi all, 1st post for me.
I have a 2000 petrol landcruiser... just the 6 cyl. that is very tired now and needs to retire... basically it needs rebuilds on everything...according to my mechanic, and so it is now time to invest in a new truck.
This is what i would like to do..
Tow a hard floor camper trailer in sand and everywhere.
i don't go hardcore 4x4, forest trails and beach really, just to escape the masses.
maybe the odd adventurous drive, but more than likely without the camper on.
i will have between $30-$40K budget.
i am looking at petrol 200 series, but the kms are about the 150k-180k mark...
i could get a newish low km bt50 for that coin.
but i know the absolute need for power towing on the sand, my 105 petrol did it with ease....
well at least i thought so until the recent conversation with my mechanic.
$40k is a lot of money to me and my family, we want safe, reliable, and don't want to kill it with our weekends away.
your opinions will be greatly appreciated, i have researched cars and read good and bad reviews now to the point of being utterly confused and unsure.
thanks rob
Reply By: mountainman - Sunday, Feb 05, 2017 at 22:53
Sunday, Feb 05, 2017 at 22:53
Why wouldn't you go another 100 series.
and this time instead of the 105 petrol
go for the 100serirs 4.7v8
They are dirt cheap to buy.
plenty of power above the 4.5 but only come in auto.
price wise 18-28k should get you into a low mileage cruiser.
and again
with the budget you have, even a 1HD FTE 100 series. From 03-05 depending
On kms driven
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Follow Up By: rob h18 - Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 08:45
Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 08:45
Thanks all for your replies. I will be using car finance for a portion of the purchase and they specify the car age being no older than 2008 otherwise the interest rate pops up a fair whack.
I am definitely after an automatic.
I love my 100 series, but it was pretty gutless up hills with the camper on, wish I had bought the v8 all those years ago.
I am not fussy, I will buy a Great Wall if it's the best car for me..... which I am quite sure it's not ;)
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Reply By: Hewy54 - Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:03
Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:03
You have not said how many k's your current car has done.
If you spent $40000 on a newer one, who knows if you will have problems in a few months or years.
If you were to spent $20000 you will have a car that is older, but you know what work has been done or will need doing.
Buy a car that is newer and you will lose several thousand a year on depreciation.
Always had a chuckle over my sister in law who told me that their car was getting expensive to repair as it needed $4000 spent on it. Instead they spent $30000 on upgrading.
If you want a newer car, go for it, but do you really need it.
Financially you may be better off spending the money on repairs.
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Follow Up By: rob h18 - Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:15
Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:15
Hey Hewy,
Yep cheers for your opinion... it is a good idea.
My 4x4 has about 270k kms on it
I hear you about the repairs, it's just after doing them I will be left with a reliable under powered 6 cyl petrol cruiser.
I really need more grunt for mountain ranges and beach
I think it's time for a different car... this ones a bit tired....
I sometimes want to flick the camper trailer so I don't have to tow anymore.
I mean my landcruiser used to do it all but I felt it struggled with the steep and deep
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 10:18
Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 10:18
Seriously look at the 4800 Patrols Rob.
They have significantly more power and torque , spread over a wider power band than your 2000 cruiser and are available with beautiful gearboxes in both manual/auto. I have owned several since 2001 and they significantly out perform the opposition. They use fuel though like your one.
They have really good long travel solid axles / coils all round.
A near perfect weight distribution , and can easily be converted to sleep inside (which we do for big trips).
Over 200k my manual averaged 17lt/100km and my current auto version is about 19 , but it does a lot more towing.
Including all the big tracks like Full Madigan / Canning / and hardcore Vic back country.
I recently got into a lightweight soft floor camper trailer (500kg loaded) and Patrol doesn't know it exists and extra fuel use is less than when I fit off-road 33" tyres compared to my 32" road runners.
As a car they are a degree less complex and can mostly be serviced at
home.
Plenty around sub 20k.
Actually I like the 200 series and it was a close call when I got my latest 4800 (the last one made) however I banked the difference in cost and am way ahead since the petrol price crash 2 years ago.
We have a 4wd property and have tested many cars and they are seriously hard to beat !
Made from 2001 to 2011, they haven't changed much but had a pollution control power downgrade to 180kw in late 2005 and some cosmetic changes and then dropped the manual option so many feel that pick of bunch is just before the change.
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Reply By: rob h18 - Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 16:16
Monday, Feb 06, 2017 at 16:16
Wow, thank you very much for your replies.
I will look into the patrols as suggested.
A quick search shows them with similar kms to the 200 series...
and prices close too.
Is the Nissan superior to the 200 series?
I will keep my eye you for a 100 series v8 also.
I could swap out my wheels and tyres and bits that way.
I saw a pretty good 200 series with 165k kms on it for $38k
But I am no great hurry to purchase.
And in response to my current vehicle, I was told i need the valve stem seals doing, transmission, front wheel seals (forgot the right name) and had too much play in both front and rear diffs....
It still runs nice, just blows smoke and rattles over bumps and when I back of the gas and reapply the transmission thuds...
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