Swing away single rear wheel carrier for LC200?

Submitted: Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 22:21
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Hi there, I'd love to get a Kaymar rear bumper / wheel carrier etc. However, it's super expensive and I'd rather get lockers, rooftop tent, better lighting etc first. However, the 'under bumper' style spare wheel is a pain in the neck. So I'm looking at maybe getting a single simple swing wheel carrier in the short term. Has anyone had (or know of anyone) this done for their 200? Anyone know where to get one at a good price (don't wanna pay any more than I need to as I'll upgrade it at some point anyway)?
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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:06

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:06
Everything has a trade off.
I have a Kaymar swing away rear wheel carrier. Due to my bad back its better than having my spare underneath. On the down side, you always have to open it if you want to access the rear doors.
ARB do push lock and open version, way easier to use but cost an arm and a leg.
I have lockers as well, again a very expensive accessory $4K front & rear. On board air is great to have and air lockers make it easier to get up those harder tracks with easy.

A tip: anything to with 4wding is expensive.

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Reply By: mountainman - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:09

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:09
Kaymar is a quality company.
soo even if you did buy it..
and wanted to sell it off when trading up.
You won't loose too much money and wont find it too hard to find another buyer at time of selling.
Soo factor that in when you decide which way to go
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:41

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:41
You can get the Kaymar rear wheel carrier without the rear bar for the 200. I think that would be as cheap as any other solution. Around $1000 as a guess....

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:04

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:04
Is it worth considering a space saving , light weight solution in the short term Philby ?

I was thinking that i have not had a failure in a tyre that I couldn't plug in fifteen years , so fitting a narrow tyre/wheel could be acceptable even though we spend a lot of time on harder tracks.
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Follow Up By: Stu & "Bob" - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:33

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:33
Murphy says that as soon as you fit a narrow tyre/wheel as a spare, you will shred a normal tyre beyond the plug repair.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:06

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:06
Yeah I think it depends what you are doing. I have never had a puncture in the high country over rocks etc. in 35 years ( touch wood) . But 3 weeks in some deserts can get you 3 - 4 punctures with a tyre right off being relatively common. 2 or 3 spares would be minimum for that so compromising on even the first spare would be out of the question IMHO.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:24

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:24
Robin,
the 200series needs at least 17" wheels because it has big brakes.
As far as I can tell there is no such thing as "skinny" 17inch tyres.
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Reply By: CSeaJay - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:26

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:26
Philby

It is expensive. you wont get much change out of $5,000 for a new Kaymar fitted (cost of double, not sure for the single swing)
And in my opinion, you will get no return on the investment when you sell. It appears that in most cases us 4wdrivers get book value for our cars, and if we get more it is only a fraction of the cost of the accessories.
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Reply By: cruza25 - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 15:48

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 15:48
http://www.4wdworld.com.au/Spare-Wheel-Carrier-to-suit-Toyota-Landcruiser-200-Series.html


This one might be worth a look
Fits in the tow bar

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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 16:10

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 16:10
That is a lot of weight and the lever-action supported by a relatively small tongue. Add sway and momentum to that when offroading and it is an accessory that I would not trust personally.
I reckon there is a reason Kaymar is more robust and expensive..
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Follow Up By: cruza25 - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 18:17

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 18:17
It says that it mounts to chassis rear cross member

I am sure they would test it in real life conditions but having never dealt with this business.

maybe someone else on here has dealt with formula offroad near parramatta.

?????

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Mike
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Reply By: Member - Marilyn P (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:28

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:28
I bought a rear wheel carrier and fuel carrier rear bumper from Opposite Lock in '08 and it was the worst thing I have ever done. Regret so much I didn't go for Kaymar as they are superior. Sometimes cost doesn't count.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:30

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 20:30
Its not super expensive.
For $1400 plus fitting, you can install a single Kaymar swing away carrier for a 200 series because you don't need the full rear bar. Thats what you do if you want to carry a 2nd spare.

But being realistic here - punctured tyres are a rarer event now since tyres improved and plug kits became common, and since people understood the importance of lower pressures and reducing weight and speed. So I think you are finding a solution for a problem that is pretty uncommon these days.
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Reply By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 10:20

Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 10:20
Do you really want all that weight hanging on the arse of your vehicle,
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Follow Up By: Philby - Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 17:34

Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 17:34
Without the full weight of a kaymar rear bar it shouldn't add too much weight.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:45

Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:45
I fitted one of these on my 200 about 6 months ago. I fitted the twin carrier. I chose these because they have a good reputation....are considerably cheaper than Kaymar.and they can be removed..........important to me as lets face it they are a pain when your home..not traveling and the 'cruiser is the everyday car etc.

Very well built and look good.a lot of thought went into the design

http://www.outbackaccessories.com.au/

No affiliation but a happy customer.



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Follow Up By: Philby - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:53

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:53
That sounds real good. If you don't mind me asking, was it pricey?
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:22

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:22
haven't got the invoice to hand but I recall it was considerably cheaper than Kaymar.......give them a call as my price is 7 months old.......really worth a serious consideration.
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Reply By: Member - abqaiq - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:02

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:02
Look at Raslaar Inc. near Melbourne. Might be Cheaper/Better. No connection to them, bah bah
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 21:25

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 21:25
Just my experience, I had a single rear wheel carrier on my 80 series. Was a right royal PITA having to unclip the carrier and swing it out every time you access the rear. In the ~10 years I had the 80 series I had 3-4 puntures but opened the rear door around 10,000 times!!!

Then I got a GU with door mounted spare, problem solved??? Hmmm... I noticed the shear weight of the door mounted spare wheel every time I opened the door. Also had to fully open and lock in position whenever parked on a slope. And never had a punture in ~5 years in the GU.

Now have a 200 series and bless every time I open the tail gate :)

Would never go back to a door/carrier mounted rear wheel and simply put up with the inconvenience of an underslung spare for the ultra-rare times I need to change a tyre.

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