Re: towing with vehicle with self levelling air suspension
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 14:00
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Member - Mally (WA)
I currently have 23'6 van weighing 3 1/2 tons all up. I am contemplating buying a 2007 Range Rover Sport with a twin turbo V8 diesel with 640 nm torque. I currently use a Hayman Reese weight dist unit attached to my Land Cruiser. I have heard that there may be some real issues with self levelling air
suspension which the range rover has. Does anybody have any advice on whethere this is a wise combination?
Reply By: Racey - Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 14:59
Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 14:59
I believe Range Rover forbid WD hitches, it upsets the auto level system. People I have spoken to who drive Range Rovers with air bags claim they tow like a dream and do not experience any see-sawing.
God luck with the purchase.
Cheers
Racey
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Reply By: WBS - Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 15:07
Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 15:07
Mally,
In 2011, When I was looking at the possibility of buying a Landrover D4 I learnt that the max tow capacity was 3.5 ton. I don't recall the max towball weight but think it was 350kg. Keep in mind this max towball weight reduces commensurate with the load in your vehicle including passengers and luggage. I think from memory that the Range Rover was the same.
I was advised in no uncertain terms that the Landrover D4 with self levelling air
suspension could not be used in conjunction with a WDH. It would void the warranty. End of story. I assume the same applies to the Range Rover. I have heard of people with Range Rovers with air
suspension who have used a WDH but that came via a friend of a friend's friend if you catch my drift. Look on the Landrover forums
That's the best I can offer.
WBS
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Reply By: Keir & Marg - Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 17:33
Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 17:33
We have friends with a Landrover D4 who had no end of trouble with the air
suspension whenever they towed their Jayco Expanda which is less than two tonnes. The air
suspension couldn't cope with the downforce from the towball (about 175kg), would throw up error messages, and then the D4 would go into limp-
home mode. Stop at the side of the road, turn off engine, wait a few minutes, re-start and carry on until the next large bump in the road (and there are plenty on the Pacific Hwy!) Aside from that, the repair bills and unreliability have been horrendous over 3 years, so it's up for sale. Years ago, we had an old petrol V8 RR which was reliable, but very thirsty. Bought a Landrover D1 diesel which was a true off road vehicle - off the road in a garage somewhere being fixed about three months in every 12, so sold that!! You would have thought we would have learnt, but got seduced into a diesel Freelander TD4 some while back. Fantastic vehicle until you stopped it for 10 minutes on a hot day, then ABS, electronic stability control,
hill descent and cruise control wouldn't work. Numerous visits under warranty back to the LR dealer, never fixed, then of course once the warranty ran out, they wanted us to pay for a new computer ($5k) and a new wiring harness ($2k) which might fix the problem! Needless to say, the Freelander got sold!
We would not have a LR product again, and we have many friends who have been bitten by them and will never get another one. Just saying .........
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 14:48
Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 14:48
Your answer does not contribute to the original question in any way.
If you want to bash Landrover start another thread to do it
Seasons greetings
Disco.
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 14:58
Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 14:58
"I am contemplating buying" was quoted by the original post.
I think this is very relevant.
My brother also bought two. Over a course of 4 yrs. In total left him 40K out of pocket after repairs hire cars and selling at a loss. Again the issue could not be tracked down and the solution.... maybe a new computer and harness...
If I was the OP I would want to know these things. Both good and bad.
regards
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Reply By: DiscoTourer - Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 20:32
Sunday, Dec 22, 2013 at 20:32
Mally,
I own a D4, so can comment on first hand experience, as opposed to what a mates, mate reckons what goes on.
WDH is not needed and not advised as it fights against the system.
The air
suspension auto adjusts as soon as the weight is put on.
There is no issue with 350kgs ball weight which is maximum specified by Land Rover.
We tow a 3.5 tonne horse float, with a 340 kg ball weight. Car levels as soon as the hitch is lowered.
No more annoying WDH with the associated back breaking techniques required to put them on. No issue offroad such as removing WDH when traversing uneven ground.
Air
suspension can also be lowered do enable easy removal of trailer, and lifting for easy hitching.
I tow an offroad camper at 1.5 tonne loaded, and guess what....with 3.5 tonne trailer and this offroad trailer, and 50,000 kms of tripping around and significant offroad and touring, I have never had a
suspension fault.
And I swapped from a 2011 200 V8 diesel, and happier than a pig in you know what.
Brett...
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Follow Up By: toffytrailertrash - Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 13:31
Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 13:31
Our previous tug was a Disco 4 and we towed a 21ft Kedron which is no light weight van with a 350kgs down weight with no problems at all. I would totally recommend air
suspension on the Land
Rovers anytime and with the anti sway built in to the car the auto levelling is magnificent.
Cheers
Merv
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