trip to esperance

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we are going to travel to esperance at the end of january and would like to hear from anyone about the best and most interesting way to get there.

we will be towing a small camper van Jayco type with fold out beds so not to heavy and towing it with a landcruiser petrol.

What is there to see on the way.
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:10

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:10
MIM. I take it you are travelling from Perth ???

We are also heading that way on 26th of Jan. Normally we would head down to albany then out to Bremer Bay (half way to Esperence) but this time we are going inland. We have decided to go to places like Wave rock, Pink lake and also see some of the wheatbelt we've not visited before. Lots to see.

Part of the reason I want to go this way is I want to take a bit more time, stop for one or two nights along the way and see a bit more of WA, instead of roaring off down the road missing all the places between A and B.

Another way would be to go east towards Southern Cross / Kalgoorlie and the go south from there.

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Reply By: mim - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:20

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:20
Thankyou Muzz for answering.

We were thinking of going to Bremmer Bay and then Hopetown but were not sure what there was to see on the way.

We haven't been that way before so anything would be helpful.

Mim
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 15:38

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 15:38
Mim,
We did Hopetoun last year same time, great trip, caravan Park was great and very friendly, Fitzgerald Nat park is definitely worth a visit, lots to see, good views etc Bremer Bay also a good place to drive around, watch some of the beach driving, the sand can be very soft people hang around certain entries and exits watching people attempting to get in and out of places. We made the mistake of being close to Bremer New Years Eve, not really a family friendly place at this time. We stay at Windy Harbour for a couple of nights and explore the local nat park (can't spell the name), Lake Jasper, Black Point etc etc all good four wheel driving spots. Have a nice trip you can't go wrong around that area. The Western 4WDriver mag has a South West Coast book out, we went on a few of those trips, good value and well documented.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:38

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:38
Hello - A lot of nice bays with campsites between Bremer Bay and Esperance.
eg Pt Ann, Pt Charles, Mason bay, Starvation Boat Harbour, Munglinup Beach, Stokes NP, Quagi Beach.

Get the Streetsmart Map that covers this area (Goldfields Esperance) - it shows most camp areas and spots to visit.

Goldfields & Esperance Map

PDF download available here for $4.40

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:45

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:45
PS - if the coast bores you and want some additioanl "adventure" check this out for some ideas
a href="http://www.dundaspost.com.au/4WD.htm">4WD in Norseman

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:46

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 14:46
woops went too fast...

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 15:58

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 15:58
Thanks for that link, Greg. What a friendly site! Unlike the Norseman I encountered some 38 years ago lol

Have printed the pages as we will be passing through there on our way home after next years Big Trip No 2! Will go and have a butchers at one or two of their tracks.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 08:05

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 08:05
Might pay to contact the guys from the sight before visiting some of the areas. There are more big fires down that way. I drove to norseman last night and the trees were still smouldering. One of the fires has been burning for 6 weeks now. they get some truly awsome fires in the area that are just left to burn for months
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Reply By: Member - John C (WA) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 20:18

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 20:18
Hi,
An interesting way to get to Esperence is via Wagin, Lake Doubleyung, Lake Grace, Lake King, Ravensthorpe and then to Esperence. The roads are good and there are things to see.
PS I have a BBQ just up the street from the Wagin Caravan Park.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:50

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:50
Hi ,
Lake Dumbleyung is full of water this year, went there in late Sept for a yacht regatta, great place to visit, Very good C/van pk in Dumbleyung.
Hopetoun is worth a visit too, especially if you are into fishing.

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 20:41

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 20:41
The days on the south coast would be a good start. A loop could be good. get there via the south coast and leave inland via Mt ridley and then inland via peak charles and the frank Hahn NP and lake King
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:05

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:05
Went that way in January. Bought 4wd days book from this site (have now lost it, darn); great book. One of our early stops was to climb Mt Frankland (north of Walpole) and a guy in the car park who had lived at Esperance said there's this great new book you must get - and pulled out a copy of the 4wd days book we had already purchased.

Pulling a heavy caravan so didn't do the real 4wd stuff, so couldn't get to places like Black Point. Went through the karri forests, and to a few spots we hadn't been to, as much of SW we were familiar with. Went along the coast from Albany, calling in at most accessible beaches. Stayed at Cape Riche CP, community run small charge and basic only, but fairly full in peak season. Nice swimming and walks. From Hopetoun, followed coast road. Stayed at Mason Bay, free campsite again fairly full, nice regulars who summer there, limited facilities only and no water. Don't miss Cape Le Grande NP; again camps were full in January, so couldn't stay and do the walks in this well maintained and set out NP. Went on to Cape Arid NP, but didn't go far due to sand tracks and pulling van. Went North from Condingup along Parmango Road (fairly rough) to Balladonia as Mt Ragged road apparently narrow and not suited to caravans like ours. Our previous off-road wind up Jayco-clone type van would have needed a lot of putting back together after taking on a road like Parmango. Get the 4wd days book from ExplorOz shop and enjoy the holiday.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:47

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 21:47
I reckon you got the wrong info on the Mt Ragged road. it is rough in sections with limestone but isnt overly narrow or small (have done it twice in my old camper) and shouldnt present a problem for your BT
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 01:30

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 01:30
Thanks Davoe - we went with your notes on file, but as both roads were new country for us to see, we took the easier option. I know you said the Mt Ragged way would be OK for us, but had read reports of narrow bits, also i think it was the ranger said there would be sandy patches - didn't want any additional pull for our poor overloaded 3ltr. Is there any loose sand? My nephew from the city went down that way a while ago (i may have told you before) armed with a book looking for serious 4w driving. Disappointed at not finding anything difficult despite the descriptions in the book, he said "they would call my driveway difficult and yours extreme", although it may be different in wet weather. He enjoyed the views from Mt Ragged, and loved Cape Le Grange NP. I'm about to book ferry to Tasmania, so it will be straight across this time (Wagin - Frank Hahn NP - Norseman). We enjoy that drive and haven't been into Pk Charles yet. Depending on time left, may take a different way back (did Norseman Hyden road on the way back in January). Have a happy new year. Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 01:38

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 01:38
No soft sand that i recall - certainly never engaged 4wd or let tyres down. and dont recall any narrow bits as the old camper was a narrow and low track detector. It would be worth the short detour to Peak Charles. i often camp there on the way back from fishing and climb it tin the morning before heading back
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 13:07

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 13:07
Hi Davoe (and apologies to mim for the thread hijack)

One of our reference books was a BF Goodrich 4wd book, and it said "Track to Balladonia very rough, narrow, with patches of bog, sand and limestone". We discussed with ranger at Cape Arid and chose Parmango road. What a nuisance i lost the 4wd booklet - it was such a good reference.

Our van is quite high and wide, so we had fun taking it into the Organ Pipes in the Gawler Ranges - spent more time looking back and dodging branches to avoid the solar panels; caught a few twigs in the annex but we haven't used it to see what damage; just a small tear i think. Then when we got there we had nowhere to turn around. Managed a multi-3 point turn into the scrub (i was direction, not driving - can't back trailers).
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 23:09

Friday, Dec 30, 2005 at 23:09
Mim,
Don't know which way you are heading or where you plan to go but if you go through Walpole make sure you go on the inlet cruise with Gary .Costs about $30 but is worth about $300. Also visit Little Beach which is about 40kms East of Albany.Between Albany and Perth The coast line is very specky so take the coast road and take all the roads that lead off to the coast and enjoy.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 14:25

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 14:25
Re Walpole inlet cruise - I haven't done it, but my sister & partner from the city did and thought it well worth it. The operator has incredible local knowledge and made the tour very interesting.
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Reply By: Uppy - Member - Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 11:03

Saturday, Dec 31, 2005 at 11:03
Hi mim,We are doing the same trip in mid Jan.Perth,wave rock,Esperence.In a petrol patrol.We will be towing a box trailer.So thanks for the post it has been very helpful,maybe we can catch up some where on the road
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Follow Up By: skarm - Sunday, Jan 01, 2006 at 13:10

Sunday, Jan 01, 2006 at 13:10
Uppy
Wife an I will be camping in Cape Le Grand from 22 to 27 if there is room. Will be dropping kids of at Granma's in Bridgetown and travelling across from there, staying at manson one night. If you are in the area look for Gold Nissan pathfinder with blue/aqua trailer. Will be good to catch up with a fellow ExplorOxian.

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