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Over the last 8 years l have had BGF AT on my Prado. Last set have been disappointing, new KO3 are expensive compared to other brands. Looking for recommendations?
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:10

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:10
Hi Lloyd

I recently put a set of Falken Wildpeak AT on the Dmax, and happy with them so far. Got a 4 for the price of 3 deal at Tyrepower. The tyres were recommended by a relative who has a work ute.
So far , so good ........ no complaints. Seem to ride well and fairly quiet.

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Follow Up By: Ozi M - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 17:38

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 17:38
I have had these for two years now and will get them again
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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:22

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:22
Toyo Open Country AT/LT

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Follow Up By: Alan H11 - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:27

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:27
2010-2018 - Tyres we used in South America on our X Trail T31 then Montero:

- Dunlop Grandtrek AT3 - good tyre on the highway, OK offroad
- Pirelli Scorpion AT - similar to the Dunlops
- Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S - the best of these three - good on the highway, more capable offroad.

2017 - In 2017 we made a "big trip" through Africa and had BF Goodrich T/As on our vehicle there (LC80) - they were a little noisier on the highway, however better than all of the previous tyres offroad.

2019 - In 2019 we made a "big trip" around Australia and at that point had the Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S on the vehicle. When we needed to replace one we found that the nearest shop had BF Goodrich T/As and we asked them to put one on the vehicle, however they recommended a Toyo Open Country AT as being as good as the BFG at a lower price. We took their advice and when we subsequently replaced two more tyres put on two more Toyos, which we have on the vehicle now (in South America). The Toyos are excellent - quiet and capable on the highway, and good offroad. So, I'd recommend Toyos.

2022-2024 – In 2022 we acquired another vehicle – it was way too expensive to ship our Montero to North America so we bought a Wrangler JK LWB and took it 53,000 km around Western/Northwestern Canada. It came with Michelin LTXs and although we were initially concerned at their capability they proved remarkably capable on tarmac, gravel, and “offroad”. We did experience 2 punctures, which we fixed, however it should be noted that on this section of the Dempster we helped fix a lot of punctures on other vehicles (as many as 3 simultaneous punctures on one vehicle in one case!), so having only 2 was not bad. Later in the trip we replaced the tyre which had experienced 2 punctures with a new Bridgestone Dueler A/T and put the spare on the rear axle. The choice was partly owing to the fact that the spare tyre was a Dueler and the tyre workshop in Fort Nelson had one available. We ended up with 2 x Dueler A/Ts at the back and the Michelin LTXs at the front and as the spare. If we had needed to replace all of the tyres on the Wrangler we’d have gone for the Toyos.

The tyres on the Montero are Toyos now, with one Geolandar left.

So – Toyos are our recommendation.

I've seen a lot of recommendations recently for Falken Wildpeaks, however have no experience to offer.
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Follow Up By: sjp - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 20:50

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 20:50
beg to differ ,now made in China ,i was a bit annoyed.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 06:31

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 06:31
Bet to differ…..clearly stamped on my tyres…..”Made in Japan”
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Follow Up By: sjp - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 08:49

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 08:49
yours are ,mine aren't ,but i was expecting them to be ,i guess as long as they contain a certain % of Japanese ingredients its all good .
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 16:44

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 16:44
Stephen,
I nearly bought Open Country A/T's a few years back on your recommendation to someone else here on EO but on doing a little research, so many owners in review said they were terrible on wet sealed roads. I ended up staying with BFG A/T's. What's your experience? Regards, Michael.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 17:15

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 17:15
We have had no issues in the wet on bitumen on both the old AT2 and now with the AT3
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 20:30

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 20:30
My current BFGs are hardly worn but they are getting old, I think I will go back to the original profile and give the Toyos a go. Thanks Stephen. Regards, Michael
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Follow Up By: Alan H11 - Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:55

Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:55
re "I nearly bought Open Country A/T's a few years back on your recommendation to someone else here on EO but on doing a little research, so many owners in review said they were terrible on wet sealed roads."

We live in Colombia; it's a bit wet (highest rainfall is at Puerto Lopez, not far from where we live, which has over 13 m/year of rainfall; the wettest place in Australia is Tully, I believe, with an average of 4 m/year. When we completed our long trip in Australia we took the car home, since when we've driven 40,000 km or so on the Toyos, in very wet conditions during the rainy seasons. The tyres have been fine, with good grip.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 09:04

Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 09:04
Thanks for the feedback Alan, I was surprised at the nearly six out of ten who complained about lack of wet grip, a few others were happy with that aspect. I have seen the way many drive on A/T and Mud tyres and yes they probably are going have wet weather issues. Sometimes you have try for yourself and get some own life experiences. Regards, Michael.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:44

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 08:44
Lloyd,

Having a good run out of Maxxis AT 811, in 265.75R16, on a Landcruiser 79. Did Gibb in 2022 towing, and also a lap into the Simpson last year. Seem to be wearing well & have had no problems with them.

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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 20:07

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 20:07
Was running Maxxis 980 but have now changed to Maxxis Razrs . Great sidewall protection but cant say what they wear like as I am hard on tyres in general
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 22:44

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 22:44
Don’t keep track of my usage, Ivan, but rarely get more than 40K kms out of a set. Hear of blokes on the coast getting 80-100K out of their tyres, but once you live outback, good wear is difficult to achieve.

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Follow Up By: Member - Gordon B5 - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 22:47

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 22:47
I’m running the Maxxis RAZR 811. I run 6 tyres, 2 spares. Purchased June 2021. They are currently at 72,200 k. Have done Hay river track, Plenty Hwy. French line, Colsen track & madigan line 2 years ago. Up WA coast this year & down Binns track, out to Surveyor Generals corner, back to Alice & then home down GCR. I have rotated them 6 times in the time I’ve had them & we are leaving Mon to drive across the Nullabor to SA. They will get me over and back easily but if I go remote again I will replace them. When I done the Simpson trip there were 6 Vehicles runing five different makes of tyres, none of us had a problem then or until now. The Maxxis are an aggressive looking tyre but are very quiet on the black top. I think there are some good quality tyres out there just need to make up your own mind what you want. Maxxis are out of Taiwan and have 5 factories around the world according to the bloke that sold me mine. Happy touring.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wildmax - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 13:11

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 13:11
I changed to Maxxis Razr after using Coopers for a number of years, and very happy with the improvement on and off road - seem to be less prone to damage (fingers crossed of course!!)
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 13:25

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Bob Y. I find the dirt roads and corrugations hard on the rear set so I'm always put the fronts to the rear and fit new tyres on the front. Out ute shares work and play duties but spends a fair amount of time on dirt. I do find the tyres noisy on Bitumen.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 14:18

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 14:18
Do the same, Ivan. Almost due for a new pair once I drive to Townsville & back early next week. Don’t notice road noise with them, too much occupational deafness in my case. The rears have worn quite a bit, but put it down to towing a heavy van along Gibb, up to Agate Ck & a couple of bitumen runs up to Camooweal over the past 2 years.

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Follow Up By: Batt's - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 18:18

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 18:18
Also have the Maxxis Razr A/T done 52,000km in the past 2 1/2 yrs just checked there down to 5mm. Been a good all round tyre and very good on wet roads I'll get the same again.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:25

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:25
We’ve been very happy with our Toyo Open Country ATs - being using them for years after BFGs.
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Reply By: Bricky - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 21:10

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 21:10
We have always had BFG and had a great run out of them. Our truck came with Hankook Dynapro MT, also very good.
Just put Radar renegade r/t, be interesting to see how they go....37 X 12.5.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 23:52

Friday, Nov 15, 2024 at 23:52
Yoko Geolander AT-X. I've had trouble with every other brand I've tried except Yoko Geolander AT's. I've had Desert Duelers, Falken, Maxxis and Toyo Open Country and had incidents with them all except the Yokos and I've had more sets of Yokos than the others because I really like them. It could be just luck or they might suit how I drive and how the car is set up.
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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 03:57

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 03:57
Same. I’ve had multiple sets of GO12’s, GO15’s and now on a set of 10 ply GO16’s.
Even put a set of p metric rated GO15’s on the wife’s forester.
Most of our fleet utes have changed to GO15’s now also.
Great tyres. Best puncture warranty in the game. I have not had to use it though.
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Reply By: Member - Suitcase (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 06:48

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 06:48
For what it's worth I've had a set of Hankook Dynapro LT on our Prado for 82000km and I think I'll get another 10000 out of them.
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Reply By: Member - Happy Explorer - Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 07:12

Saturday, Nov 16, 2024 at 07:12
Hi Lloyd
Another vote for Toyos.
I started with Toyos on my Landcruiser before I sold it then fitted a full set of Toyo AT11 on my Prado and van. I have matching rims and tyres on Prado and van so are all interchangeable but makes it difficult to track milage. I also changed to the slightly higher profile 265/70/17LT but still on Prado rims. I have now almost completely changed over to the new AT111 which also seem to be working well. Fitted another pair only last week. All mine are made in Japan. I probably would avoid the Chinese ones if I could.
I run 38psi on the Prado and 40psi on the van.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 10:13

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 10:13
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Well, there you are Lloyd, ten different recommendations to choose from.
You might imagine that if there was one outstanding tyre, then everyone would be buying and recommending that brand. But that does not seem to be the case.
So I will not add my favourite tyre to the list.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 10:17

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Some people will proclaim that they are getting 80K km out of their tyres. But then you find that they are rotating six tyres to achieve that. Which amounts to only 53K km per each tyre. Big difference!
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:23

Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:23
I never actually looked at it that way before Allan. I currently have six wheels and tyres and rotate them at every 10,000 km service.

My first set of Coopers I did get over 120,000 kms with only the standard 5 wheels and tyres, and that included a half lap from Melbourne. Went up the Stuart Highway to Darwin, Kakadu, across to Katherine, the GRR to Kalumburu, then Broom, back to Halls Creek, down the Tanami to Alice, down the Oodnadatta and back to Melbourne via Broken Hill. That was back in 2004/5. After that I bought more Coopers only to have a total of 8 side wall failures over the next couple of sets. All were replaced under various warranty conditions. However, I will not buy Coopers again.

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 09:12

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Hi Macca,
The first tyres I put on the Troopy were Coopers. After a few thousand k's several developed cracks where the sidewall joins the tread. Not wishing to be stuck in a remote location I ripped them all off and went to BFG's. When they wore out, my long experienced tyre dealer recommended General Grabber's as being highly reliable with a good mileage at a reasonable price. He was right and I stayed with them ever since.
In my opinion, the best thing about Coopers is their advertising!

But there you go….. the best tyres are always the ones on your vehicle….. ask anyone!
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 23:00

Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 23:00
When we lived on the Diamantina, we purchased a very tidy 1997 model multivalve 80 series, shod with BFG’s. They seemed okay so continued to use them for another 250K kms!

But as average wear rate on the Diamantina River Road and/or Cork Mail Road was only 30-40K kms, for the BFG’s, it was an expensive exercise. However, never had a blowout, but tread wear was rapid on those gravel roads.

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Follow Up By: Member - Northern Wanderer - Saturday, Nov 23, 2024 at 23:53

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Allan
I’m on my third set of Coopers on my 75 series Troopy. Each set has 6 tyres. I have numbered each of my rims and use an Excel spreadsheet to track how many kms each tyre does in each location - LF, RF, LR, RR and Spare. Useful when rotating tyres. Generally get 50-60k kms from them.
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